I don't know if this guy's joking, but you never know with FP commenters

"HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute" (hondoyota) 05/20/2018 at 11:21 • Filed to: shitpost

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farscythe - makin da cawfee! > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 05/20/2018 at 11:25

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lol... hes not entirely wrong tho...

most professional drivers i know prefer automatics..... i guess when you’re driving 8-12 hours a day that shit is just nice

vondon302 > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 05/20/2018 at 11:30

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My Dad told me my Grandpa once remarked

“Automatic transmission!?! Who the hell is going to pay extra for that!”

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 05/20/2018 at 11:31

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Correction: CVTs need to die

Like now

Please

Spanfeller is a twat > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo 05/20/2018 at 11:35

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CVTs should be improved, not killed.

In the end having an infinite ratio of gears is better than having steps, we need to make peace with that.

Chuckles > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 05/20/2018 at 11:39

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Automatic transmissions are pretty great. I love having choices. Some days I want to drive a manual, some days I don’t.

Mercedes Streeter > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 05/20/2018 at 11:41

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He’s not wrong. The vast majority of people in the world don’t want to shift their own gears if they don’t have to. Most people want an easy car that looks good enough for whatever look they’re going for and will last forever. I can’t fault them for that.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 05/20/2018 at 11:42

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Svend > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 05/20/2018 at 11:43

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I think automatics have there place, just not under my right foot.

In the U.K. on many cars it’s a £1,000 premium on something that’s more expensive to fix than a manual and doesn’t give you the same feeling of control as a manual.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Spanfeller is a twat 05/20/2018 at 11:43

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no

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 05/20/2018 at 11:44

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hahaha cant make me... im bigger and uglier than you :)

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Chuckles 05/20/2018 at 11:44

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Fair enough. At least you’d still have both.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Mercedes Streeter 05/20/2018 at 11:45

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“The vast majority of people in the world are lazy af”

FTFY

fhrblig > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 05/20/2018 at 11:45

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I work 8-12 hour days driving a vehicle anywhere from 150 to 600 miles. I’ll take an automatic please.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Svend 05/20/2018 at 11:47

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This x10000

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > fhrblig 05/20/2018 at 11:47

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No stick for the weekends?

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 05/20/2018 at 11:50

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^^^^^^^

Dusty Ventures > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 05/20/2018 at 11:53

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I daily a manual, I’m getting ready to buy a second manual in the fall.

That said, if my delivery van where I spend ~8 hours a day were a manual I’d probably want to drive it off a cliff and kill us both.

Mercedes Streeter > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 05/20/2018 at 11:59

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Humans are lazy, in general. lol

Still, whether we car enthusiasts like it or not, the auto and its computerized manual siblings (SMG, DCT, etc) are now technologically superior to the standard manual. Their current day equivalents shift faster and sometimes even get better fuel economy.

If we’re talking about brand new cars off the lot, there’s really no reason to go after the manual version unless you absolutely must shift your own gears or really want to slice $800-$1000 off the purchase price of a vehicle.

I love manual transmissions, I really do. I wish all my cars had legit three pedal manuals. However I also believe the auto is one of the most important automotive inventions and someone who prefers one shouldn’t be shunned.

I thought being a car enthusiast was about loving cars, not being snobs. That’s not a rag on you, just a general complaint.

Outside of Oppo and Jalopnik, I would be called mentally ill for liking smarts. Seriously?

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Mercedes Streeter 05/20/2018 at 12:07

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I just think that autos and manuals should be able to coexist though, not autos completely taking over everything. Kinda like other things in the world....

Urambo Tauro > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 05/20/2018 at 12:08

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Gotta love those old ads touting automatics as a luxury/convenience feature.

LOREM IPSUM > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 05/20/2018 at 12:08

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I’ve owned a number of automatics over the years, and I wished each and every one of them were manual.

Urambo Tauro > Dusty Ventures 05/20/2018 at 12:10

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Been there, done that.

Uh... not the cliff part. Dang it. You know what I mean.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Dusty Ventures 05/20/2018 at 12:10

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I think there should be an equal blend of both, not the way it is where autos are going to completely kill off manuals. And more cars should be available with both.

fhrblig > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 05/20/2018 at 12:23

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Sometimes life pushes you toward the car you need rather than the car you want.

My previous car was a Fiat 500 Sport with a manual and it was fun, but it was too small, my partner never wanted to ride in it, it didn’t really work for the dog, and it drove like crap in the snow thanks to the combo of traction control you can’t ever completely shut off and the sport tires. Plus, at the time I had a 50-mile round trip commute in the worst of Denver’s rush hour. It really sucks to work your butt off all day and then have to battle bumper-to-bumper traffic for an hour or more in a manual-transmissioned car. So I traded it for a Kia Optima LX that my partner would be ok riding in and driving, and the dog loves it. And my commute immediately improved.

But now I don’t need a car because of my new job providing me with a work vehicle. Also my partner got a new car (a 2018 Elantra Limited) that is way nicer than my base model Optima, which means we drive that car almost exclusively.

My plan now is to pay off the Optima and eventually get rid of it, and then I’ll probably look at something with a manual. Though it’ll more likely be a 4x4 truck or a Jeep CJ or Wrangler.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > fhrblig 05/20/2018 at 12:48

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Well, it’s different if it’s what life dictates. That’s fine then. At least you appreciate them for what they’re good at :)

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 05/20/2018 at 12:57

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He speaks the truth, but accepts that people can’t handle the truth!!!

(I have only ever owned cars with manual transmissions. Though in the future, I would consider making an exception if it’s a BEV or a good hybrid).

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Urambo Tauro 05/20/2018 at 12:57

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So you’d want to kill both yourself and the van by a means other than driving off a cliff?

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > fhrblig 05/20/2018 at 12:59

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Here you go:

Urambo Tauro > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 05/20/2018 at 13:05

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No I mean it was a truck :P

fhrblig > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 05/20/2018 at 13:16

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If only it could carry 4000 lbs of cargo.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > fhrblig 05/20/2018 at 13:31

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It can be done... you just need to get creative!

Chuckles > fhrblig 05/20/2018 at 17:57

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What didn’t you like about the traction control in the Fiat? I’ve got a 2012 500 Sport with an automatic, and traction control is literally the only way my car can get up my driveway when there is snow. I’ve tried many times with it on and off, and it goes right up when the traction control is on.

I completely understand moving on from that car, I just love the traction control. Maybe it’s different in a manual though.

My bird IS the word > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute 05/20/2018 at 18:49

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Ive come around. Auto is great for a dd, but not my first choice for a toy.

fhrblig > Chuckles 05/20/2018 at 19:05

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Honestly, if it were an automatic it probably would have been much better. The problem was: let clutch out, wheel spins, traction control says “NOPE”, immediately cuts power, car stalls. After it happened one or two or three hundred times on one drive home, I could barely resist the urge to set it on fire. I’ve never had a car do that before.

Chuckles > fhrblig 05/20/2018 at 19:12

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Interesting. I can see how that would be frustrating. It’s certainly a lot more helpful in an automatic, since it won’t stall. My driveway is steep. Without traction control I’d just spin my tires aimlessly. With traction control, it cuts power and just chugs up the drive like a very cute little train.

fhrblig > Chuckles 05/20/2018 at 19:25

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One of my co-workers had a 500 Pop with an automatic and she had no problems in the snow.

You can sort of turn it off, but if it decides it doesn’t like what you’re doing it comes back on anyway.